News alert: Bill O'Reilly thinks Daily Show viewers are uninformed!
In a recent show, conservative bomb-thrower Bill O'Reilly attacked young voters as uniformed on the issues (presumably because they don't agree with him, right?), accusing young people of getting their information from Jon Stewart and bomb-throwing rock stars instead of crediible sources, by which we presume he meant himself.
According to Media Matters, a media watchdog organization:
Ouch!
In a recent show, conservative bomb-thrower Bill O'Reilly attacked young voters as uniformed on the issues (presumably because they don't agree with him, right?), accusing young people of getting their information from Jon Stewart and bomb-throwing rock stars instead of crediible sources, by which we presume he meant himself.
According to Media Matters, a media watchdog organization:
Bill O'Reilly asserted that "[m]any Americans ages 18 to 24 have no idea what's going on," stating that they "get their news from [Comedy Central host] Jon Stewart and their point of view from bomb-throwing entertainers." In fact, studies have shown that viewers of Comedy Central's The Daily Show with John Stewart are consistently better informed about current events than consumers of other media, and Daily Show viewers are significantly better educated than viewers of The O'Reilly Factor. Further, consumers of Fox News in general have been found to be significantly more misinformed about current events than consumers of other mainstream media.
Ouch!
posted by Hans Riemer at 2:42 PM
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Hmmm, interesting Hans, you quote Media Matters and somehow they conveniently leave off the fact that O'Reilly continues to quote the recent poll that showed many of our peers can't locate Mississippi or Iraq on a map. Also, to consider Stewart a more credible source for news than Fox is absurd... of course I can't verify Media Matter's quote because you didn't provide a link (thanks) and the cherry picked pullquote you provided has no link to their supposed "studies" that show "consumers of Fox News in general have been found to be significantly more misinformed about current events than consumers of other mainstream media" or that "viewers of Comedy Central's The Daily Show with John Stewart are consistently better informed about current events than consumers of other media" or that "Daily Show viewers are significantly better educated than viewers of The O'Reilly Factor"
I guess I'll just have to take yours and Media Matter's word for that.
I think you missed O'Reilly's point: young voters are uninformed on the issues. I agree completely. My friends and many other peers don't even know who is running much less the issues. The very few that know of the issues know little about the issues.
I watch the Daily show, Fox News, CNN, read the newspaper, and read online papers. The Daily Show doesn't do a very good job of informing voters on the issues and I wouldn't recommend to anyone that they get their information from the Daily SHow...it's funny but not too factual.
I'm outside your core demographic (male/42), but I do watch the Daily Show... it's hilarious.
Is it news? Hardly. Is it fair? Almost never.
Is funny? Damn funny!!
So is Doonesbury, but even Trudeau knows his work is an editorial, not news.
Sean, sorry, but you're clueless.
A year-long study by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes
(http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf)
reported that Americans who relied on the Fox News Channel for their coverage of the Iraq war were the most likely to believe misinformation about the war, whatever their political affiliation may be. Those mistaken facts, the study found, increased viewers' support for the war.
The study found that, in general, people who watched Fox News were, more than for other sources, convinced of several untrue propositions which were actively promoted by the Bush administration and the cheerleading media led by Fox, in rallying support for the invasion of Iraq:
(percentages are of all poll respondents, not just Fox watchers)
57% believed the falsity that Iraq gave substantial support to Al-Qaida, or was directly involved in the September 11 attacks. (48% after invasion)
69% believed the falsity that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 attacks.
22% believed the falsity that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq. (21% believed that chem/bio weapons had actually been used against U.S. soldiers in Iraq during 2003)
sorry.
Anonymous, hate to break it to you, but we recently declassified a ton of documents from Saddam's regieme that shows substantial cooperation between Saddam and Al Qaeda. This began shortly after the first gulf war in 1991 and continued until (at least) late 2001, three months after 9/11.
In 1998, two months after the East African embassy bombings which conincided with the Clinton administrations sporadic bombings of Iraqi weapoons factories, Saddam sent a team of intelligence operatives to meet with bin Laden in Afghanistan where they decided to work together to persue common interests.
Steve Hayes has been chroicling this in the weekly standard for several years:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/024eyieu.asp
(I've only linked to one, but you can find several more articles on the topic listed at the bottom of the page.)
Steve's work is the final nail in the coffin discrediting the crock of you know what known as the 9/11 commission.
And, oh yeah, Jon Stewart used to be funny, but his ego has grown along with his ratings (which, despite their tremendous growth, are still less than one-tenth of Rush's ratings). Personally, I find him quite tiresome.
I believe that there is a lot of truth to what Hans is saying. The main issue here is that young people are simply not as informed as other age demographics. I find it is mostly because they find politics boring and they honestly don't care what is happening to our country.
I consider myself an informed young person. I watch CNN, read the New York Times and other various news sources everyday. I try to keep up on all political issues and I also try very hard to form my own opinion of things. My friends, on the other hand, spend most of their time watching MTV. And we're talking about college kids here.
I'm sure that young viewer watching the Daily Show are slightly more informed based on the simply fact that they are watching a news based show. If they are interested in it, that means they are most likely interested in current events. I watch the Daily Show and I love it. I am also a liberal and I can see how conservatives like O'Reilly would feel strongly against it. But I disagree that Daily Show viewers are not informed and I agree that O'Reilly doesn't like the show because it paints the President and other Republicans in a bad light.
For those of you who truely believe that young people who watch the Daily Show are less informed, get out there on the streets and do your own polls. I think you will be surprised by the results.
As a mom I am deeply saddened by the garbage young people seek out now, such as Rock the Vote and your website. Precious little truth there. I used to think like you, but then I grew up and realized the founding fathers were right: our form of government is wholly inadequate for self-absorbed, out of control, rebellious 13 to 26 year olds (and those older who have yet to wise up). Rather than allow our country to sink into socialism any farther, I am fighting it and talking about the TRUTH every chance I get. I pray more young people reject the ideas in your bla bla blogs and search for the truth where they will find it, to the right, generally, not the left! (the Bible is an excellent start, too)
In the grand scheme of things in this great country of ours.....are we all misinformed by the media?
Just check out what intelligent people OUTSIDE our borders see.
aj
Anon,
I won't rehash what cahnman posted, but I don't think I've heard heard a single news report claim Saddam was involved in 9/11, not on any news station even Fox. I really have no idea where that came from as I know Bush hasn't said anything to that extent in any of his lead up to the War (a quick search of his State of the Union speech will validate that point). I do know many on the left throw that out like its been a stated fact, as their own pitiful straw man argument, but I seriously doubt there is any evidence of Fox or Bush claiming Saddam planned or funded 9/11. Helped Al Quaida? Yes, absolutely, but was part of 9/11... no.
BTW we have found chemical weapons in Iraq and have just uncovered several documents claiming Saddam buried several weapons caches in the desert. I'm sure Saddam didn't use laughing gas on the Kurds or the Iranians, but who knows?! I'm positive its far more plausible that Saddam made up the claims of having Weapons of Mass Destruction as one giant world-wide gag and just simply shot the Kurds but hired several makeup artists to make it appear that they died from deadly gas just to keep up his fantastic charade. Yeah, that makes far more sense.
My friends who watch the Daily Show do it for one thing...to get their daily intake of Bush/Republican bashing. No matter how weak the joke or skit, if it lambasts Dubya, it gets the biggest laugh. In the rare case a Democrat or "progressive" is taken to task, you won't hear as much as a chuckle. If and when the Dems take control of the White House in '08 (and Bush's Iraq policy has made that a good bet), I'll be intersested to see if the Daily Show will be a non-partisan offender. But why do I think that Repubs will still be the whipping boy even when they're out of power.
Thet're not likely to alienate their target audience.
The fact of the matter is that we young americans are more concerned with living our lives, ie: expressing ourselves, learing, having lots of sex, and being young. We hear about the death occuring, and we watch the white-haired men attempt to justify their actions, and we fork over all our money to fill our piece-a-sh*t-high-gas-mileage cars and we wonder what the f*ck is this war doing for us. Moreover, what the f*ck is this war doing for the Iraqi?; civil war? Then we come to realize that the "American Dream" b*llsh*t they force feed us in grade school was exactly that. We feel disenfranchised by our "public servants'" coded, beat-around-bush, rhetorically-fashioned, full-a-sh*t babble. We find solidarity is comedians, such as John Stewart who like us, get the joke that our leader, our president, can't even talk to his own f*cking people without making a complete mockery of himself. We also seek refuge in sub-cultures which various musicians unconsciencely lead and provide us sepremecy from the swine while they, so appropriately, express our similar distain for the state the leadership of our country is in. Now do bastards get our "dumb" and "unconcerned" asses?
"we wonder what the f*ck is this war doing for us."
Yeah, god forbid we create allied governments in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq, that can only hurt us in the broader war with the irreconcilable wing on Islam.
A democratic middle east: Perish The Thought!
This has been Cahnman!
Cahnman out.
When i say "us" i refer to the youth in America. Im could care less what "allies" my crooked government gain from their oil crusades. And if you believe we're over there to create a democratic middle east, I question your wisdom. We are there create and strongarm foreign governments to cater to our government's interests, and not that of their own people's. Furthermore sir, if you believe, for an instant, that our own government is a shining example of democracy then you aren't only unwise; you are also, blind.
"This has been Cahnman!Cahnman out."
10-4 you narcissistic moron?
anonymous, you are most likely some under 25, naive moron who believes that communism or socialism is the cure to all the problems in the world, and that the evil, undemocratic united states is the root of all the world's woes. honestly speaking, i really don't give a shit about people in other countries. i care about the people in the UNITED STATES. do you really think that people in the uk, germany, china, japan, chile, peru, or mexico care about american citizens? and as for seeking refuge in sub-cultures providing you with "sepremecy", get a life my friend. i would bet money that you're probably from some upper middle class family with rich white kid guilt. btw, learn how to spell if you want to appear intelligent, worldly and knowledgeable.
Well there's always one left-wing degenerate who comes out on these boards...my guess its Hans pretending to be stupid
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